0:08 all right hello everyone I've got a lot of content to get through 0:13 so I'm gonna move fast Buckle in if you are looking for a startup idea right now 0:19 I'm going to try to help but more importantly I'm going to try to give you the conceptual tools to think about 0:24 startup ideas in a sophisticated way the way that we think about them at YC here's the thing uh no one not even YC 0:31 knows for sure which ideas will succeed and in any case if your idea succeeds 0:37 has much to do with how well you execute as your initial idea anyway but certain ideas are much more likely to succeed 0:43 than others and so my goal here is to help you stack the deck in your favor by starting with a promising idea the 0:50 advice in this talk came from several places first I analyzed the top 100 YC Where does this advice come from? 0:55 companies by evaluation and I looked at how they all got their idea so I started with some hard quantitative data on how 1:01 recent billion dollar companies actually came up with their idea it also draws on a classic essay by Paul Graham that I 1:08 really recommend it's called how to get startup ideas um it also comes from helping YC companies that pivot in the middle of 1:15 the batch and learning over the years what advice helps them to find a new good startup idea 1:20 and then finally it comes from Reading thousands of YC applications that we rejected and looking at the mistakes 1:27 that caused good Founders to come up with bad ideas and those are the mistakes I want to help you all avoid 1:33 this Talk's got three parts first I'm going to tell you the most common mistakes Founders make with startup 1:38 ideas then I'm going to talk about how to know if your idea is good and then about how to come up with new ones okay the four 4 most common mistakes 1:45 most common mistakes with startup ideas so the most common mistake is just building something that doesn't solve a 1:51 real problem for your users typically you can articulate the problem that you're 1:57 solving you can put it in words but when you actually go and talk to the users it's just not something that they really 2:03 care about we call it a solution in search of a problem or a cisp 2:09 let's go through an example so a lot of Founders come up with an idea with this kind of thought process they go hmm AI 2:16 is cool what could I apply AI to and then they go look for a problem that 2:21 they could solve with AI That's a solution in search of a problem and the reason it's dangerous is that if you do 2:27 that you'll probably find a problem but it will it will be a superficially plausible problem it'll be a made-up 2:33 problem that people don't really care about rather than a real problem that people actually care about 2:39 and if people don't really care about the problem they won't really care about your solution so instead you want to 2:45 fall in love with a problem the best way to find a startup idea is to start with a high quality problem now 2:53 Sunrise Founders hear this and they decide to interpret that as guidance to work on some like huge societal problem 3:00 like I don't know Global poverty or something um no doubt those are real problems but 3:05 they're they're too abstract to make good starting points for startup ideas you need something that's more specific something that's tractable with a 3:11 startup the next mistake is getting stuck on what we call tar pit ideas what's a tar pit idea so there's this 3:19 certain set of common startup ideas that have been around for forever they have been applying inroves to YC batch after 3:26 batch for years and when founders start working on these ideas it's like they've gotten stuck in tar they never seem to 3:33 go anywhere so we call them tar pit ideas here's what causes tarpet ideas they all form around some like 3:40 widespread problem that lots of potential Founders encounter and it's a problem it seems like it could be easily 3:46 solved with a startup but it's an illusion there's actually a structural reason why it's very hard or impossible 3:52 to solve which is why after all these years no one has solved it and you can see why ideas like this 3:58 would be so dangerous why they will cause so many Founders to waste months of their life stuck on a tarpet like 4:04 they're very tantalizing from a distance because they're so superficially plausible as startup ideas here's a 4:09 concrete example this is a very common tarpet idea that's been applied to YC for like 20 years this is like the 4:14 stereotypical college student idea and it goes like this you think 4:19 man every Friday or Saturday Saturday night when I'm making plans to meet up with my friends it's so inefficient I'm 4:26 in all these different text threads and chat groups and we're like trying to make plans to meet up I'm just going to 4:32 make an app to make it more efficient Well turns out that there are some structural reasons why this idea is hard 4:37 which is why in like 20 years of people applying to YC with this idea nobody has actually pulled it off you can see why 4:44 so many people have been attracted to it it's like it's a problem that almost everyone encounters at some point and it 4:49 seems like it would be so easy to solve like you can just imagine the app it's just got like a list of events and you invite friends to it like it seems so 4:55 simple the thing about tarpet ideas is that they are not necessarily impossible like I'm even open-minded that somebody 5:02 will eventually make the like app to meet up with your friends idea of work is more accurate to think of them as 5:08 common ideas that are much harder than they seem so if you want to work on one 5:15 um here's my advice first Google it it's amazing how many Founders skip the step 5:21 of just like Googling for their own startup idea to see who has worked on it in the past you should find who's worked 5:27 on this in the past and actually talk to them if you can try to figure out what the hard part of this idea is that has 5:35 caused other people to not be able to solve it yet the next mistake is simple it is amazing how many Founders will 5:43 basically just like jump into the first idea they have without even stopping to consider whether it would actually make 5:48 a good business but more dangerous is the founders on the opposite side of the spectrum who 5:54 sit around waiting for the perfect startup idea and of course there is no such thing so these people just never 5:59 actually start a company so if you imagine that there's like a spectrum between picking the first idea that comes to mind and waiting for the 6:05 perfect idea and you know somewhere in the middle there is this like happy place which is the place that you want 6:11 to be right and the way that Paul Graham put this is that you should think of your idea as a good starting point 6:19 new startup idea is perfect and no matter what you start with it's probably going to morph anyway so you just want 6:24 to have an initial idea that has enough interesting qualities that can morph in the right direction so now suppose you 10 key questions to ask about any startup idea 6:30 have a startup idea and you want to know if it's good I'm going to give you a framework for this and the format of the 6:37 framework is 10 key questions to ask about any startup idea so the first one is do you have founder market fit if I 6:44 depict like one most important criteria it'd probably be this one and what I mean by founder market fit is just are 6:50 you the right team to be working on this idea and a great example of what good founder 6:56 market fit looks like is plan grid so plan grid makes an iPad app to view 7:01 construction Blueprints and to the founders of plan grid were Tracy and Ralph and Tracy had worked in the 7:08 construction industry and she knew a lot about construction and Ralph was an awesome developer who was like the 7:14 perfect person to build this iPad out if you're going to imagine a team to start playing grid the team that you would 7:19 imagine would look you know something like that and that's what good founder market fit looks like it's like this team is obviously the right team to work 7:26 on the idea in fact founder market fit is so important that I would recast your search for a 7:33 startup idea when most people go to pick a startup idea they try to look for a 7:39 good startup idea like in the abstract and instead I would think about this exercise as an exercise to pick a good 7:46 idea for your team you with me it doesn't matter if something is a good startup idea for someone else if it's 7:53 not a good idea for your team so you may as well just look for ideas that you would actually be good at executing okay 7:59 number two how big is the market obviously you need a big Market which for startups typically means like a 8:04 billion dollar market but actually less obviously there are two kinds of markets for startups that are good 8:11 um ones that are big now and ones that are small but rapidly growing and an example of the second one is 8:17 coinbase so when coinbase got started in 2012 the Bitcoin trading Market was minuscule but even at that time it was 8:24 pretty obvious that if Bitcoin succeeded the way people hoped that it would that this would eventually be a billion 8:30 dollar market number three how acute is this problem so as I said earlier the most common 8:36 mistake is just like working on something that just isn't really a problem or it's just not a problem that 8:41 people care enough about um here's an example of the opposite here's an example of what a good problem 8:47 looks like Rex so Brax from Winter 2017 makes a credit 8:53 card for startups and before brex if a startup NYC wanted a corporate credit card they literally 9:00 could not get one because a no bank would give a credit card to a startup that's a good problem like if you're if 9:07 the alternative to your solution is literally nothing that's what a good problem looks like okay next do you have 9:13 competition now most Founders think that if you have competition that that's bad but 9:18 counter-intuitively it is the opposite most good startup ideas have competition 9:24 but if you were going up against especially entrenched competition you typically need a new insight next one is 9:31 like do you want this personally do you know people personally who want 9:36 this it's amazing how often people start companies where the answer to both these 9:41 questions is no if that's the case you definitely got to worry that you know maybe nobody wants this so definitely 9:48 time to go talk to some users only recently become possible or only 9:53 recently become necessary so something has recently changed in the world like a new technology regulatory 10:00 change or a new problem that is often what creates a new opportunity 10:06 and a great example of this is company called Checker which does background checks via VIA an API so it's an API for 10:14 doing background checks on people and roughly the story of Checker is delivery 10:20 services like doordash and instacart and Uber started to take off and they were all hiring huge pools of 10:27 delivery people and workers and they needed to run background checks on all of these people and there were at the 10:33 time already a bunch of large existing companies that run background checks but they weren't well suited for this very 10:39 new use case and that is like exactly the kind of change in the world that 10:44 creates a new opportunity let's talk about proxies so a proxy is a large company that does 10:52 something similar to your startup but it is not a direct competitor and so um 10:58 a good example of this in practice is a company called rapid which does food delivery in Latin America and when 11:04 rapping got started there were already a few delivery companies in other parts of the world like doordash they're doing very well they just hadn't caught on in 11:11 Latin America yet and so doordash was a great proxy to show that this idea of doing food delivery in Latin America 11:17 would probably work is this an idea you'd want to work on for years but this 11:22 is a tricky one like sure if the answer to this question is yes that's a good sign but often it's not often an idea 11:29 grows on Founders over time as it starts to work as I'm going to talk about in a 11:34 moment a lot of the best startup ideas are in boring spaces like tax accounting software or something like that like no 11:40 one is particularly passionate about like nobody starts off being passionate about tax accounting software 11:46 um but tax accounting software is probably a good business and if you're actually running a successful business 11:52 you tend to become passionate about it over time okay is this a scalable business 11:57 so if you're building pure software the answer is yes because software skills infinitely and you can just like check 12:03 this one off um the place for Founders most often get into trouble here is with Services 12:08 businesses like agencies or Dev shops anything that requires like high skill human labor in order to serve your 12:14 customers okay and my last question is is this a good idea space which of 12:20 course means I need to tell you what an idea space is this is a concept from my colleague Dalton who you'll hear from 12:26 later in this course an idea space is like one level of abstraction out from a particular 12:32 startup idea it is a class of closely related startup ideas like software for hospitals or 12:40 infrastructure monitoring tools or food delivery services and here's the thing 12:45 different idea spaces have wildly different hit rates over the last 10 years if you started a 12:52 company that did like fintech infrastructure or vertical SAS for Enterprise the the probability that your 12:59 company became a billion dollar company was astonishingly High whereas if you started something in 13:05 consumer Hardware or social networks or ad Tech the success rate was like orders 13:12 of magnitude loader and I can't say that that will continue to be the case for those specific areas because spaces 13:17 flipped from hot to cold over time but it is still worth thinking about picking 13:22 a good idea space and a good idea Space is really just one that like you expect is going to have a 13:28 reasonable hit rate for new startup ideas and one that has founder market fit that way even if your initial idea isn't 13:35 quite right there are probably good adjacent ideas that you can sort of like drift into 13:40 I'm going to give a good example of like how this played out in practice so a good example of picking a good idea space is this company called 5tran from 13:47 yc1213 and basically it's already 5tran is they started making this tool for 13:52 data analysis and they went to some companies and they tried to sell it and the companies 13:58 didn't want it so they pivoted and they built a different tool for data analysis and they went back to the same companies 14:04 and they tried to sell them that one and the companies didn't want that either but each time they went to companies and 14:10 tried to sell them some tool for data analysis they would learn more about what those companies actually wanted and So eventually they sort of stumbled into 14:17 an actual problem into an actual tool for data analysis that companies actually wanted 14:22 and this is why picking a good idea space to start with is so important like because 14:28 the five Tran Founders were shopping for ideas and a fertile idea space they put themselves in a good position to like 14:35 bump into a good startup idea if they had picked a bad idea space they probably wouldn't have found anything 3 things that make your startup idea good 14:40 okay before I talk about how to generate startup ideas I've got one important 14:45 topic to tell you about these are three things that make your startup idea seem bad 14:53 but actually make them good and the reason that they make them good is that most Founders will shy away from ideas 15:00 like these which leaves them on the table for smarter Founders to go and grab them and here they are 15:06 ideas that are hard to get started ideas that are in a boring space and ideas 15:12 that have existing competitors ideas that are hard to get started so Paul Graham wrote a terrific article 15:19 about this called schlep blindness which I'd really recommend reading and the example that Paul discusses is stripe 15:24 you all know stripe they make it easy to integrate credit card payments to your website and the fascinating thing about stripe 15:31 is that when stripe launched there were thousands of developers who already knew 15:36 that this was a problem they had tried to integrate credit card payments to their site and they realized that the existing options sucked 15:43 but strangely not one of them even tried to start striping and it's kind of a 15:50 kind of a fascinating question why nobody else tried when so many people were in a perfect position to see this 15:55 problem and the reason is that getting 16:00 started building stripe required some things that seemed really hard you had to get a special deal with a bank you 16:08 get to learn a lot about the nitty-gritty details of credit card infrastructure those things seemed so 16:14 hard that they scared off all the other people who might have started stripe which caused them to leave this like 100 16:21 billion dollar opportunity on the table for the stripe Founders to go and pick up okay the second one is ideas that are 16:27 in a boring space and a great example of this is Gusto which makes payroll software 16:34 payroll software pretty boring right the thing is there are thousands of people who must have realized that 16:40 payroll software sucked but because it was kind of a boring problem nobody tried to fix it until the Gusto Founders 16:45 came along and the thing is that because most Founders shy away from ideas like this 16:51 boring ideas like payroll software have a much higher hit rate than fun ideas 16:56 like apps to find new restaurants to eat at or like apps to find the next song to 17:02 listen to something like that like fun ideas get picked over boring ideas get left on the table for a long time 17:10 now you might be thinking Jared why would I want to work on a boring idea that sounds you know boring 17:17 but here's the thing even if you work on an idea that sounds fun at the outset 17:22 the day-to-day reality of your startup is going to be mostly the same anyway 17:27 either way you'll be mostly writing code fixing bugs talking to users like pretty 17:34 much the same stuff and so I would argue that once the initial excitement of your 17:39 idea has worn off and you are 6 or 12 months in and you are grinding out the 17:45 execution that makes your idea actually work how fun the initial idea sounded 17:51 actually has little to no correlation with how much fun you will actually be having working on your company 17:59 and the last one is that Founders incorrectly shy away from spaces where there are existing competitors 18:04 counter-intuitively most startup ideas most good startup ideas have existing competitors when founders go into spaces 18:11 with no existing competitors they often find out that the reason that there are no competitors is because no one wants 18:17 the product a great situation is actually a market where there are existing competitors but 18:23 you've noticed something that they all seem to have missed or they all just kind of suck a classic example of this 18:28 is Dropbox so when Dropbox launched they were already about 20. 18:34 cloud-based file storage companies Dropbox was like the 20th company and it's space to launch naively you might 18:41 have thought that that made this a bad Market I mean you would have gone and looked and said like oh there are already 20 competitors it seems like a 18:46 bad Market to go into but if you were Savvy about startup ideas you would have realized that it actually made it a 18:52 great Market and the reason is that even though there were like 20 companies doing this most people didn't use any of 18:59 them and that strongly suggests that there actually was a problem here but the existing products hadn't solved it 19:07 and Drew the founder of Dropbox had a very specific insight about what all of 19:12 them were missing his Insight was basically their UI sucked and the reason their UI stopped was that at the time 19:18 the way that they all worked is you had to like go to their website and manually upload your files one at a time into 19:24 their website which sucked of course and Drew had really a technical Insight which was that if he integrated directly 19:31 into the host operating system he could just sync your files automatically without you having to do anything and 19:36 that was a real step function change in how convenient these Services were to use and that was the right insight okay How to come up with startup ideas 19:43 let's talk about how to come up with startup ideas so it is possible to sit 19:49 down and explicitly think of startup ideas and in a moment I'm going to talk about how to do this but it is actually 19:55 not the best way the best way to have startup ideas is to just notice them organically and if you look at the YC 20:01 top 100 companies at least 70 percent of them have their startup ideas organically rather than by like sitting 20:07 down and explicitly trying to think of a startup idea and the problem is that when people sit down and try to think of 20:13 startup ideas they tend to think of bad ones they're especially likely to think of the same set of tar pit ideas that I 20:20 talked about earlier whereas startup ideas that occur to you organically are more likely to be good ones so if you're 20:27 not planning on starting a company imminently and you just want to put yourself in a position to have organic startup ideas in the future here are 20:34 three ways to do that this is like playing the long game to set yourself up for future success um first is just like become an expert 20:41 on something valuable if you're working at the Forefront of some field you'll see good startup ideas in that field 20:48 and a great way to do that is to go work at a startup Harge talked about this in his talk last week if you're working at 20:54 a startup you will become an expert in the thing that that startup does and that is really putting yourself in a position to have great startup ideas and 21:01 finally if you're a programmer one thing that can work is to just build things that you find interesting even if 21:07 they're not businesses they're not clearly startup ideas sometimes they like turn into them over time and a really 21:16 striking example of this is the story of replica this is exactly how replica started it was just something that amjad 21:22 found interesting it wasn't supposed to be a startup originally okay but if you want to generate ideas for startups 7 recipes for generating startups ideas 21:28 right now I'm going to walk through seven recipes for doing that I've tried to list these in order of How likely 21:34 they are to lead to actually good ideas so start with the first ones okay here's 21:40 the first one and the best one start with what your team is especially 21:46 good at and think of ideas that take advantage of your expertise the reason that this 21:52 is so effective is that any idea you come up with this way has automatic founder market fit do you see how this 21:58 is almost like a hack to generate the set of ideas that has founder market fit here's a great example of like how this 22:04 worked in practice so a good example is this company resi which is like open door for rental 22:10 apartments and before starting resi the founders have worked in real estate and debt financing and they were experts in 22:17 those areas and where they got into YC they spent the first month looking for ideas 22:23 but the smart thing that they did is they only looked at ideas in that idea space in like the rough idea space at 22:30 like the intersection of like real estate and fintech and that was a smart move because that is a very fertile idea 22:36 space for startups like many billion dollar companies have come out of that idea space and the resi founders were 22:42 experts in that idea space and so because of that their search for a startup idea was 22:47 pretty quick and painless and pretty quickly they came up with the idea for Rezi which is like an excellent idea and 22:53 has perfect founder market fit so if you have specific expertise like the resi founders did you should definitely start 23:00 by looking at ideas in you know the things that you're experts in um it is weird how many startups apply 23:08 to YC and we look at their applications and the founders like are actually legitimate experts in something but the 23:13 idea that they're applying with is like something completely different now if you're if you're a young founder 23:19 if you're in college or something you may not have had a chance to develop it's like the level of domain expertise 23:25 that the resi founders had so this may not be the right recipe for you so let's talk about some other ones 23:31 the next recipe is to start with a problem you've personally encountered ideally one that you're in an unusual 23:38 position to see so vetco is a website 23:43 for veterinarians to order supplies so you can think about it like amazon.com for vets 23:49 and the short story of vetcove is that the founders are brothers and their dad is a veterinarian 23:56 and growing up they would notice that the way he ordered supplies was like super old-fashioned like you'd have to 24:02 like call up a supplier on the phone and like order stuff through like a 1-800 number or something it was like very 24:10 obvious that you could build an amazon.com kind of thing that would replace that and I I love the story of vetco because 24:16 it's such a great example of what a great startup opportunity looks like 24:22 because thousands of veterinarians must have known that this was a real problem 24:27 that it was really annoying there wasn't like a basic website where you could just go to order supplies but the thing 24:32 is veterinarians don't start Tech startups very often and then on the other hand you had like thousands of 24:38 programmers in Silicon Valley who were begging their heads against cisps and tarpet ideas totally unaware that over 24:45 here there was like a really great genuine problem to work on 24:50 and because of this when the vet co-founders got started they had no competition so this amazing idea just 24:56 got left on the table for years so if you want to try to actually use recipes one and two here's a specific set of 25:03 instructions for how to do it this is advice I often give to Founders NYC who are pivoting and who are looking for a 25:09 new idea here's how it works for each founder on your team 25:14 go through every job you've ever had plus all your internships plus like 25:20 other life experiences and think really carefully about each of 25:25 them what problems did you come across what did you learn that other people 25:32 don't know What are problems or opportunities that you've been in kind of a special 25:38 position to see those are the best places to start looking for startup ideas okay the next 25:45 one is to just think of things you personally wish existed this is like a really classic recipe this is very 25:50 common advice great example of this is doordash the short story of doordash is that the founders of doordash were 25:56 undergrads at Stanford and the thing they really wanted was to be able to just order food from local restaurants 26:01 and have it delivered to their dorm and before doordash you couldn't do that so they started doordash and this is a 26:08 great recipe but this is the recipe that is most dangerous and potentially leading to tar 26:15 pit ideas so if you're using this recipe you just gotta stop and think for a second is there a reason why this thing 26:20 doesn't exist yet okay the next one is to look for things in the world that have changed recently that might have 26:26 created a new opportunity a great example of this is covet so when the pandemic started it changed 26:32 daily life for all of us and many Founders realize that this created the opportunity for new companies and some 26:39 very successful startups came out of it and one of them is this company called gather town which builds like this fun 26:46 way to hang out with other people online and the founders of gathered town were actually working on a different idea that wasn't going so well and when the 26:53 pandemic started they pivoted to this because it was obvious that like the change in behavior of the pandemic had 26:59 created a bunch of new opportunities you can also look for companies that have been successful recently and look for 27:06 new variants on them a good example of this is a company called Nuvo cargo Nuvo cargo is a good 27:13 example of explicitly sitting down to try to think about startup ideas and actually finding a good one which is the thing that I told you is hard to do 27:19 pneumo cargo is basically flexport for Latin America they help U.S companies to 27:24 import stuff from Mexico and the story of nuva cargo is that Deepak the founder was working on a 27:30 different idea NYC and he realized that his idea wasn't going to work and he went on like a systematic search 27:37 for better ideas and he picked Nuvo cargo for for very 27:42 analytical reasons he picked it because it was a large Market because they were good 27:47 proxies from other companies flexport and he picked it even though he didn't have deep domain expertise in the import 27:54 export space because he had some connections that would enable him to get started and he felt like he would just 28:00 be very good at running this kind of operationally intensive business and that worked really well Niva cargo 28:06 is doing super well you can also go and talk to people and just ask them what 28:11 problems they have this this can work the the downside with this recipe is it actually requires a lot of skill if you 28:17 want to do this I would recommend first picking a fertile idea space and then 28:23 going and talking to people within that idea space and I would also recommend talking not just to potential customers 28:30 but also to potent but also to founders of companies in that idea space to get 28:36 advice about what ideas are actually worth pursuing and a good example of doing this successfully is a to B and A 28:43 to B was in the position that a lot of Founders that struggle to find good startup ideas are in which is that the 28:48 founders were pretty young and they hadn't acquired a lot of specific domain expertise like the resi founders had yet 28:54 but they really wanted to do a startup and they wanted to do a startup that had like a genuinely good idea the way that they came up with the idea for ADB was 29:01 very systematic and so I'm going to walk you through how they did it and really break it down for you so A to B makes 29:08 fuel cards and if you haven't heard of a fuel card it's like a special kind of credit card for truck drivers when the A 29:15 to B Founders got into YC they pivoted and they spent the whole YC batch looking for a new idea and here's how 29:21 they did it first they picked an idea space and the idea space that they picked was essentially software for the 29:28 trucking industry and they picked this idea space despite not being experts at the trucking 29:35 industry because they felt that it just should be a fertile idea space to go 29:40 hunting for startup ideas the trucking industry is as like Big Industry hasn't been that disrupted by startups and 29:47 software yet so they just felt like there were probably some good problems to work on in the trucking industry but 29:53 the problem is they didn't know that much about the trucking industry so they didn't know what those problems were and so they 29:58 decided that they would turn themselves into experts in the trucking industry 30:04 and what they did is they actually physically drove two truck stops which were places where truck drivers are just 30:10 kind of Milling about and they would just walk up to truck drivers and like start 30:16 talking to them and ask them questions about what their problems were they also talked to a lot of Founders 30:23 who had started companies in the trucking space to get ideas for what 30:28 problems were actually worth working on they would basically talk to like anyone who knew anything about Trucking that 30:34 was willing to talk to them and as they did that they began to put together like a mental map of the space and where the 30:41 good ideas were where the bad ideas were and they actually went through a whole bunch of different potential ideas 30:47 before eventually deciding to work on fuel cards and I love the example of a 30:52 to B Because A to B is one of the best new ideas to come out of YC in several years A to B is a phenomenal company and 31:00 the approach that they used to find this idea is something that really anyone could do and most Founders don't do this 31:07 because it just sounds like too much work so if you're willing to put in the work this is an amazing way to find a 31:14 startup idea okay and my last recipe is to just like look for big industries that seem broken 31:21 any Big Industry that seems broken is probably right for disruption and finally I've got kind of a bonus recipe 31:26 which is to just find a co-founder that already has an idea they're actually 31:31 like a lot of people just on Startup School co-founder matching right now that already have an idea and are looking for a co-founder so if you don't 31:38 have a co-founder and you don't have an idea that could be a great hack to getting both at the same time the last 31:43 point that I want to leave you with is just to remember that it's often hard to tell if a startup idea is good or not 31:49 and so while I hope the concepts that I talked about here will help 31:54 typically the only way to know for sure if your startup idea is good is to Just Launch it and find out so if after all 32:02 this you've got a startup idea and you're still kind of on the fence about whether it's actually a good idea or not that is my advice for you just launch it 32:09 and find it