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Diablo 4 crossed $600 million of

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revenue within the first five days

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on the market. This has made Diablo

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4 the fastest selling game of all

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time for its developer and

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publisher, Blizzard. Making it also

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more popular than the previous

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installments in the Diablo series,

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reeling in many new players to the

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ARPG genre altogether. While

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reception for the game has been all

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things considered generally

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positive since launch, recently

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players of the game have

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increasingly become more negative

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and less fond of Diablo 4. This is

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partly a result of more and more

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players reaching endgame, which in

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its current state has some problems

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that we will discuss in this video,

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but for some also the realization

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that Diablo 4 is an ARPG that draws

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its long-term existence through

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seasonal content, backed by the

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idea that you make a new character

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every season. Rod Ferguson, whom

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oversees the Diablo franchise,

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confirmed this as well in a tweet.

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Responses to the tweet were very

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mixed. For players familiar with

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previous Diablo games and the ARPG

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genre, Diablo 4 was a very popular

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game. It wasn't anything new. This

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seemed like obvious news, as they

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have experienced similar systems in

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the previous installments of the

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franchise. But for the hordes of

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new players that the game has

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drawn, it did. Many couldn't even

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believe that such a mechanic exists

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in the first place or that it is in

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this game. Some responses to Rod's

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tweet went then as following. Gotta

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be honest, as a new player, I don't

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see myself grinding like this

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again. If I have to start from

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scratch for season 1, I'm likely

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done maining Diablo. And I know

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there's a ton of people in the same

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boat. I care about my current

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character. I'd just say... It if I

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lost. This is not going to resonate

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well with a lot of the more casual

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players. You're turning off a large

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percentage of the player base. Why

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did I even start playing then? I

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should have waited for season 1 to

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start first. What a scam. I have

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zero desire to start over again if

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it means my character keeps

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becoming useless. Well, it was a

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cool few weeks. Diablo is a great

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game. Unfortunately, developers

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refused to make a better seasonal

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system, so this game has officially

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died for no reason other than

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developers like torturing players.

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Cool, so cool. I hope the game sees

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a huge dip to force developers to

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change this. And many more similar

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type of responses could be found in

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the thread. As you see, tension

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would raise as a result of Rod's

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tweets and it led to many outlets

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covering the conversations that

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took place on Twitter and informing

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everybody that Blizzard confirms

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the need to create a new character

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every Diablo 4 season. Which in

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turn was mocked by veteran players

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since this seemed like it was

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stating the obvious. Which in turn

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lead to more heated discussions

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about seasons in Diablo 4 in other

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places. Making the subject of

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seasons a trending topic for the

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past few days. The main argument

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from players that don't like the

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seasonal system can be summarized

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as following. If every few months

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my character and with that all my

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time and effort becomes completely

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obsolete, then what's the point of

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even playing? While players that

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are familiar with seasonal content

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and in fact enjoy seasons respond

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to that that it's all about the

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journey of leveling, gearing, and

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making your game. And that's why

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I'm here today. I'm here to talk

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about the game. I'm here to talk

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about the game. But when you take a

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look at theory and terminology in

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business, you'll actually find out

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a lot less if you're a Rest

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Following, like all apps out there,

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here. But to really understand why

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such a divide has transpired in the

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first place, we need to understand

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how seasons work. How seasonal

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content works is that every season

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you create a new character to

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experience the season-specific

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content of the current season that

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is taking place. The seasons will

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introduce new quests and lore, but

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also specific season-bound concepts

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and ideas that can change the way

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you level, your gear, and

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abilities. that you have. Generally

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speaking these season specific

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mechanics can for example lead to a

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faster leveling process or a way

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that makes you more overpowered

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than is possible in the base game.

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content there's also a Diablo 4

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battle pass which is tied to these

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seasons. The battle pass can be

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progressed by playing the seasons,

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the free portion of the battle pass

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can give you in-game advantages and

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the paid portion of the battle pass

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will in turn earn you cosmetic

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items and things of that nature.

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Your old characters do not get

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deleted every time you start

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playing a new season which seems to

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be a common misconception

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currently. Instead they will go to

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the eternal realm which is also the

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realm that currently all our

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characters are on. You can still

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play your old characters anytime in

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any way you want if you wish but

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just not with the new seasonal

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content. While not having your old

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characters deleted is a sign of

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relief for a portion of the player

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base that oppose the idea of

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seasons there's obviously still the

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overarching argument that making

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new characters every season in

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order for you to experience new

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content still technically kills off

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your previous characters because

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you simply just can't use them to

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experience the new content. On the

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other hand new seasons can be a

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good reason to try out a different

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class, try out new builds and play

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in a different way as a result of

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the season specific content.

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Generally season specific content

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is meant to be a refresher with

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some kind of twist to the gameplay

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loop as at some point you have done

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everything anyways regarding the

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base game so this twist is meant to

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give you a fundamentally new

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gameplay experience. All in all you

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could say that the divide is caused

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by two fundamentally different

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types of players. Those that are

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attached to their character of

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which obviously the idea of making

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a new character every few months

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isn't going to resonate well with

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compared to those that are attached

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to the journey rather and

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essentially are what was previously

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the dedicated Diablo 3 player base

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so in a sense these will be the

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core players that keep the game

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alive. However Blizzard had a much

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more aggressive campaign of

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promoting the game compared to

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previous games even endorsing

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companies like KFC and mainstream

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celebrities to make the game more

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aggressive and more fun. And that

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is good because Diablo 4 also

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caters to this new population of

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gamers as it's a very welcoming

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game and not overly complicated to

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get into. Thus it's only logical

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that the grain draws an entire new

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population of gamers that have

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never played an ARPG before leading

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into these new types of clashes

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between different types of players.

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The problems that some people have

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with seasons might be exacerbated

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by current problems plaguing Diablo

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4 and the general state of endgame.

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Which brings me to the next point.

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Problems with endgame. The specific

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portion of leveling that has been

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described as bland and even tedious

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by the community has mostly been

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the leveling experience from level

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70 to level 100 give or take. At

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level 70 you will most likely have

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world tier 4 unlocked and there's

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between level 70 and level 100. The

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problem is really as simple as

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that. At level 100 you obviously

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have uberlith but those 30 levels

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between 70 and 100 which do take a

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significant time to level compared

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to the first 70 levels is

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essentially the same as the first

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level 100 without the level 100.

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to Diablo 4 endgame not feeling

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meaningful might be that there is

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no real reason to push high

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nightmare dungeon tiers when

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leveling or even at level 100 as

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there is no reward structure

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implemented that rewards you for

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reaching said high tiers in the

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first place. Then you can also get

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a lot of your desired gear that is

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the best for your build

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best at a relatively low level.

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tier 4. So that's So it could be as

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early as level 70 to say level 75

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pretty mundane as well in that 70

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to 100 bracket. When you have

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already good ancestral gear with

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your desired stats while you're

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like level 75 what are you going to

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be looking forward to in the next

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25 levels? Upgrades to your already

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good gear just boils down to small

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percentages of increases to your

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stats. It is not exciting.

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Ultimately this problem is the

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result of the loot tables being

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just too random. You getting that

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perfect ring that makes you never

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look again at another ring from a

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random easy weak mob that you

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killed at like level 70 shouldn't

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be a thing if you want to keep

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itemization interesting from level

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70 to 100. That fourth primary

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emotion you get when you get

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Guardage to climb that tower while

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you're at level 77. At the same

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time the current loot tables don't

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reward you for doing more difficult

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content. That enemy that oneshots

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you in a Nightmare dungeon isn't

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more interesting to loot than a

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random enemy that you oneshot. And

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yes, there is a really good chase

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item that you can grind for but

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they are so rare that you will

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never see them anyways. What also

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won't see is you becoming a,"Den

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ellos no institution truly powerful

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as you getting stronger is offset

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by the enemies that scale with you

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as you level. Naturally thanks to

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how scaling works in this game. Not

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to mention that classes are not

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balanced. Some classes only have

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one viable end game build while

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others have multiple. And then the

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build diversity for these classes

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in itself is also just too sparse.

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You will see that a lot of players

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are catering to one specific build

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style for their class and the

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numbers do reflect that. So there's

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also a discrepancy to be found

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there in regards to class balance.

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What isn't balanced

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either is the need to do the

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renowned grind every single season

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which many players have been vocal

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about and generally the renowned

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grind has been described as tedious

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and egregious but thankfully we can

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cut down a bit on the renowned

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grind as you don't have to do all

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of it for example the alters of

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Lilith are permanently unlocked

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once you get them and they will

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also stay active for your new

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characters so it could be something

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to work on if you haven't unlocked

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them yet the alters of Lilith

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provide individually small bonuses

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but if you unlock all 160 of them

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then communitlately speaking these

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alters will provide you extra

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useful stats for your character

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that can for example help out in

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getting paragon requirements of

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rare nodes as well as provide you a

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nice boost for any new character

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and the map will also stay

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uncovered once you have export all

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of it for all your future

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characters so while there's a

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significant portion of the renowned

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that you will have to do every

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single season at this point in time

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these two elements have been

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confirmed to transfer over to new

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characters and with that make the

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renowned grind a bit less tedious

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is it enough to fulfill the player

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base regarding the renowned grind?

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all together knowing that you will

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for instance still have to do a

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bunch of side quests scattered all

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over the map every season well

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opinions on that vary but this is

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currently the state of the renowned

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grind now while the last few

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minutes might sound a bit

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pessimistic the good news however

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is that everything i just mentioned

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can be fixed relatively easily i

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will be giving some examples that i

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think that personally could work

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out nightmare dungeons can get much

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better loot and rewards by fixing

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the loot tables classes can be

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balanced by tweaking numbers

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obviously that is a good thing but

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balancing and new play styles

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emerging happens all the time in

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these type of games new content

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gated behind higher levels or even

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world tier 5 which apparently clues

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for existing have been datamined

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can be introduced at say level 85

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which can be an incentive to keep

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leveling and make that leveling

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process from level 70 to 100 more

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fun as there will be something to

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actually look forward to halfway in

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that leveling bracket that would

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then also make gearing more

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exciting again between 70 and 100

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as a new world tier means that we

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can obtain a lot more content and

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we can also get a lot more content

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from the player as well as the

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player can obtain a new type of

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gear that is an upgrade to the best

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gear that we currently already can

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obtain as low as say level 70

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regarding scaling the solution here

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might be from the player instead of

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a complete overhaul of the current

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system the paragon boards hold a

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lot of power that you will notice

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as you get into very high level

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brackets there are a bunch of these

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types of nodes that increase your

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power multiplicatively and getting

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multiplicative increases as

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indicated by the x in the end game

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is a huge source of power

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that you can actually get from the

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paragon boards and it's a lot

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easier to get from the paragon

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boards than say world tier 2 as for

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those that are leveling in low

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levels you will notice more of the

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scaling as you can get these type

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of power increases from the paragon

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boards all in all i think two

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current main aspects that is making

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the community mad can be tied

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together if leveling in itself

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becomes more fun and the problems

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with the game are worked on as the

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highest priority then that could

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mean that there will also be

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generally less problems with the

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idea of her starting every season

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for both seasons as well as new

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players if leveling is fun and

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something to look forward to then

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generally speaking more and more

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people will be willing to do it

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every season if leveling is tedious

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and boring then why would you want

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to level once let alone every

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season the developers have

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announced that big balance patches

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are coming which can be the start

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of a positive trend of the game

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becoming better and better if the

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developers listen to the variety of

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complaints continue to improve the

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game across the board then that

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could only mean that we're

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currently playing the worst version

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of diablo 4. all in all we should

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probably wait longer before we draw

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major conclusions about the game

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and the game itself if you're not a

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fan of the game then you should

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definitely check out the video

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description for more details about

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diablo 4 being optimistic however

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is not a bad idea at all

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considering it's not just a

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coincidence that the game reached

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its current popularity in the first

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place